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Couldnot pass this one up!

Heah Fellow Smallbore shooters,

Not much going on here at all. Weather has severely hampered any smallbore trips to the range. I did run across this website and they run regular  contests so if you like stuff bigger than .410 shotguns go sign-up to win!
Monthly Contest


Our sister website is up and running! www.410shotgunner.com and we need your input to make this a great resource for smallbore shotguns. So please stop by and check us out.

There are 410 shotguns for sale, reloading articles, a soon to be store, etc., etc., all for those who appreciate a good shotgun!

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Guns at the Capitol   [Ramesh Ponnuru]

E. J. Dionne Jr. writes:

Isn’t it time to dismantle the metal detectors, send the guards at the doors away and allow Americans to exercise their Second Amendment rights by being free to carry their firearms into the nation’s Capitol?

I’ve been studying the deep thoughts of senators who regularly express their undying loyalty to the National Rifle Association, and I have decided that they should practice what they preach. They tell us that the best defense against crime is an armed citizenry and that laws restricting guns do nothing to stop violence.

If they believe that, why don’t they live by it?

It is a clever idea for a column, and it took me a little while to think through why I think Dionne’s logic is unsound. But unsound I think it is. I think supporters of conceal carry can readily concede that a regime of metal detectors and armed officers trained to protect people and surrounding the workplace is superior to conceal carry as a way of protecting congressmen and their staff. But 1) nobody is proposing to implement such a regime for every 7-11 clerk working the night shift somewhere in this country, 2) doing so would be impractical, and 3) doing so would come with non-monetary costs that we are prepared to pay in the case of Congress but not for society generally. (Thanks to reader J.G. for helping me think this through.)

One other thing: Dionne writes,

The pro-gun folks love their studies. Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) offered this one: “A study for the Department of Justice found 40 percent of felons had not committed certain crimes because they feared the potential victims would be armed.”

That doesn’t tell us much about the other 60 percent, but what the heck? If it’s good enough for Barrasso, let the good senator introduce the amendment to allow concealed carry in the Capitol.

I haven’t seen the study, but I assume that the possibility that prospective victims might have guns didn’t make any of the criminals in that other 60 percent more likely to commit a crime. The reduction of risks here seems pretty impressive.


A Northwest view from the boat looking at Little Bear Island.

A Northwest view from the boat looking at Little Bear Island.

Recently spent a week at the family camp in Tuftonboro NH. The camp is on Cow Island and is a Lake Trout 033marvelous place to get away from it all – literally. We have hot water, lights and the usual other amenities so it is not like primitive camping, but the only phone is the one that you bring with you.

While there I began reading “A River Runs Through It” by Norman Maclean. I have seen the movie which goes by the same name approximately 10 times! Mainly because I am an avid Trout Fisherman. I must say the book is better. Which is typically the way these things go. But nonetheless the movie is good and a part of our video library.

So, I am going to post a picture of my largest Lake Trout this summer (you Canada guys don’t laugh now). A 20″ male, approximately 4 pounds. Lake Trout are prevalent in NH waters but the big ones are also picky. Many is the 20+ pounder but not yet for me. Anyway, enjoy the pic’s, and if you are interested please visit my new blog http://troutmasters.wordpress.com . It is a work in progress – but will grow, especially this winter when I set the rod’s aside and post the spring/summer pic’s of favorite trout and their corresponding stories.

My largest Trout of the summer...

My largest Trout of the summer...

 For now I will say that the time spent on the water is well worth it – fish or no fish. To be out in God’s creation, away from phones, audio, video and other distractions is truly ethereal. I find the wee hours of daylight and the waning ours to be the most beautiful times of day for a fisherman.

These are the times a man can think about anything he wants (as long as it is productive) and meditate too. I find that God is never to far from a persons mind when engaged in the view of His glorious creation.


Hoening Big Bore South: A Fully Rifled .410 Slug Barrel


HBBS slug ad

Now this is a .410 slug!
Now this is a .410 slug!

Honestly, I could not believe what I was reading. Hoening Big Bore South (HBBS), in collaboration with Hornady, Montana Bullet works, Forster and Lee loading (to name a few) have developed one heck of a .410 slug.

When I first contacted Jim Hoening he sent me a great e-mail  response thanking me for my interest and granting permission for this article. His knowledge of the .410 bore, coupled with a great personality, are going to push this company a long ways. Check this out for a .410 deer slug! .370 grains! thats a BEAR load for sure. We are talking 45-70 range now!

But wait – I am only talking about the slug – HBBS slugs are worthless without…a FULLY RIFLED BARREL for the .410 shotgun line. These Barrels are built for the Thompson contender/G2, and  Encore rifles from Thompson Center Arms. These barrels have a medium/heavy taper of .810″ and are 24″ in length with a 1/14 twist. Each barrel is delivered to you drilled and tapped for both a scope  and fore-end attachment. These barrels are 10 years in the making and if you are looking for .410 slug gun that is fully rifled check out the shot group below left.

Slug groupNot too shabby is it?! I didn’t think so myself. Having worked up some of my own specialty slugs for my .410 I was duly impressed with the HBBS rifled barrels.

HBBS has done something that I only dreamed of in producing this barrel configuration. Let’s face it, driving an uncrimped .375 grain slug from a cylinder bore should NOT produce adverse pressures – and it doesn’t. Hoening has the scientific data now available for these loads as evidenced by the following quote from their ballistics page:

“Prototype loads for the HBBS 410 Heavy factory load and the HBBS 410 Youth load have been laboratory tested and have been found to be within SAAMI specs for 410 bore chamber pressure. It is now a scientifically proven fact, believe it or not! These same tests show very consistent velocities from round to round, another contributing factor to the extreme accuracy.”

Great job Jim and staff – this has been a long time coming!

Check them out @ http://hoeningbigboresouth.com  and please let them know you heard it first here @ smallbore.


The Browning Cynergy Smallbore 28ga and 20ga

click to go to the US Concealed Carry Assoc. website

Guns Outlawed in Britain!

Featured Website for January

 Each month we will feature a different website for the smallbore community – enjoy.



12 gauge dangerous game slugs to 410 light game slugs and round ball.

Buck Ball and Slug is the only shotgun slug supplier for reloaders in the UK that can offer all common shotgun calibers. This is no mean boast as I have spent the past few years searching for these components myself and know from my own experience they are next to impossible to find here in the UK. Now I have secured a modest supply of these elusive beasts, I am happy to pass on my good fortune to other like minded responsible reloaders, shooters, and of course collectors within the UK.


New items are being added to this site at regular intervals as supplies become available but unfortunately on occasion demand can far out strip supply. So with this in mind please take a look at my products page for availability and pricing information. If you have any comments, would like to submit a link to this site, or if you have any information you feel may be of interest to like minded re-loaders or collectors, I would be pleased to include it on Buck Ball and Slug.

for more information email: slug.info@tiscali.co.uk