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Marlin .410 Shotgun Sale

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You can still buy the Marlin 410 from Cabelas. A fun firearm for small game, varmints, pest control – DEER! Patterned after Marlin’s exceptional 1895 rifle, this .410 bore lever-action shotgun sports a 22″ blued barrel, a handsome walnut stock and a tubular magazine. It fires a 2.5″ round only. We have tested this 410 Marlin shotgun with buckshot, pumpkin balls and slugs: Slugs and pumpkin balls are best. As for birdshot, it is a cylinder bore and therefore your patter is dispersed quickly. You could kill small game effectively to 20 yards with special handloads.

Look What we Found!

Specially designed to fit the Judge revolver by Taurus, it offers shock-absorbing, 360 foam protection and a precisely cut mold that prevents shaking during transit. Outside pockets hold five .410 shells. Handle for easy carrying. Made in USA!

Powder Sale

Alliant 2400 powder is our recommended 410 reloaders powder. Save up to 20%

I do not know if this will help you or not. I am fortunate enough to be able to buy powder at a local gun shop. But if you cannot, and must order it, the savings Cabela’s has right now will make it worthwhile to “Stock up”. My best .410 shotgun slug loads, 410 buckshot loads and 410 pumpkin ball loads all use Alliant 2400.

 

Mossberg 500E .410 silencer/ammunition review

 

Submitted by Al Pounder. One of our UK 410 shotgunners.

 

Silenced .410 Mossberg

Some might believe that the average citizen can’t own a gun inEngland, let alone a silencer, but my handy little suppressed .410 is proof to the contrary!

I shouldn’t need to explain the many great attributes of the diminutive .410 to experienced shotgunners, so I won’t. Coupled with an effective silencer, this is a tool that any serious hunter, pest controller or even home defence proponent should have in their arsenal (I’ll explain that last one later).

I began dreaming of having a shotgun so quiet that I could shoot without alerting neighbours (who are never far away in the densely populatedUnited Kingdom) and creating an effective gun that could even be safely fired indoors without hearing-protection if the need arose. Well here it is…

Total length is 52” with the 9” silencer fitted to a 26” barrel. Silencer could be fitted to a shorter non-ribbed or de-ribbed barrel extending at least 2.5” forward of the magazine tube.

The project gun is a non-ribbed barrel full-choke Mossberg 500E .410 from 1985, which makes this shotgun older than me and still more reliable. I fitted a silencer which requires no modification to the gun other than removing the front bead sight and thanks to a clever collet fitting system; the unit can be quickly attached and removed:

 

Silencer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The silencer features the same blast chamber and baffles arrangement found on most modern designs. However, a shotgun greatly increases the chance of a “baffle-strike” so when firing shot loads, only modified and tighter chokes are recommended to help the shot pass through unobstructed. The use of fibre rather than plastic wads also

eliminates the possibility of the wad causing a bore obstruction and a potentially lethal detonation. It is worth noting that the .410 has one of the highest chamber pressures of any common shotgun. Plastic wads can be used if the barrel/silencer is checked after each shot. Slug rounds can also be fired through the silencer with any choke. Slug ammunition is highly restricted in theUK, so I won’t deal any further with it at this time.

 

 

So, on to ammunition – silencers work by reducing the blast effect of the propellant but they do not reduce the sharp crack of supersonic projectiles. Therefore in theory, subsonic ammunition should be used for best suppressing effect. I tested the only commercially loaded fibre wad subsonic ammunition I could find; Eley Extra Long 3” Magnum – 18g of lead at 900fps. I also tested a selection of standard supersonic ammunition:

 

  • Eley Fourlong – 2.5” 12.5g, fibre wad @ 1110fps
  • Lyalvale Express – 2.5” 14g, plastic wad @ 1350fps
  • Lyalvale Express – 3” 16g, plastic wad @  1150fps
  • WinchesterSuper-X – 3” 5 pellet 000 buckshot @ 1135fps

 

Fibre wad or subsonic ammunition may not be available or affordable where you are, so hand-loading may become a necessary but very enjoyable hobby!

Results:

 With the silencer fitted, perceived noise to the shooter is greatly reduced and comfortable without hearing protection with all loads tested. Recoil is reduced to virtually zero and the suppressed muzzle report is unrecognisable as a gunshot. Subsonic ammunition was not noticeably quieter to the shooter than supersonic, but when observed from a distance by a spectator, the supersonic crack which accompanied standard loads was clearly absent. This resulted in a slightly quieter overall shot.

Plastic wads left some residue in the silencer, but checking the barrel after every shot, no dangerous obstruction was observed. Heavy subsonic loads killed small game well but required more forward leading of moving targets than the standard, faster loads. Patterns remained tight and dense out to a maximum effective range of around 30 yards with all loads. Fibre wads opened patterns by about 1” compared to plastic.

The Winchester Super-X buckshot produced a 5 shot average pattern of 2.5” at 30 feet! This load was also comfortable to fire indoors through the suppressor without hearing protection.

Tape is POA

Conclusion: With birdshot loads, this silenced .410 is incredibly quiet and lethal on small game to 30 yards. The suppressed shot does not scare away surrounding wildlife and can for instance allow a flock of birds or a group of rabbits to be repeatedly shot at without the others fleeing. Whilst this is also achievable with a suppressed .22 rimfire, hitting moving targets is infinitely easier with the .410.

The .410 is considered by many shooters to be a child’s or novice’s gun. I would argue that it is actually an expert’s gun. It requires a more accurate shooter to put the smaller, sparser shot pattern in the kill zone, but a pellet from a .410 bore typically carries as much energy as a pellet from a 12 gauge.

I will not draw many conclusions about Winchester’s buckshot load as I have not tested it on simulated or living targets. I can say though that it suppresses well enough to fire indoors without hearing protection. I would also speculate that five 000 buckshot pellets fired at 1135fps, hitting in a 3” circle should cause devastating results in a defense or hunting situation. This load also shot accurately to point of aim when I account for the fact that the suppressor puts the shooter’s line of sight high and subsequently, the gun shoots slightly low.

Things to do:

  • Drill and tap the receiver to fit either ghost ring or red dot sights. A bead sight can be attached to the silencer itself or a front sight mounted on a rail clamped to the barrel.
  • Experiment with home-loaded subsonic buckshot loads.
  • Get out and shoot more!..

 

 

 

Safir .410 Shotgun

An absolutely awesome Safir 410 configuration.

Ammo Update

Wow folks! Brenneke must be feeling the crunch! They have great deals on .410 shotgun slugs @ Ammunition to go. In fact, there is great ammo – period! As always, I make no money if you click the picture and go to the .410 shotgun ammunition page at ammunition to go. Just trying to help out.

Ladies Saiga

Here is a customized Saiga 410 shotgun for the ladies – check it out!

410 Skeet Shooting

I enjoy the 410 bore family of shotguns but have never shot skeet. If you are interested, here is a great video resource for 410 shotgun skeet shooting.

Golden Bear Slugs

Click here for Golden Bear Ammo. We make NOTHING from these sales. Smallbore exists by donations only.

Awesome 410 shotgun ammo for sale at Sportsmans guide! $66.00 a hundred! I killed a young “Spike” buck at 40 yards with one shot of this stuff three years ago from my Saiga 410 shotgun.

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